Ok now, the Gnostics were seers too. And we know that the roman catholic church hunted them down to remove them, and destroyed all their writings, but in their hatefulness of them, wrote in their own books on them being heretical to their own arrogant teachings, and they so hated them that they couldn’t help but leave us clues about them. The Nag Hammadi find in 1947 was so fiasco when it came to getting the literature translated and brought to the public. It went through a lot of struggles, and I presume they still haven’t shown us all of the text, translated. In fact, what there is translated, may the thought of as being similar to those books of heretics the roman catholic church put out, because they just don’t want us to know the truth. Nevertheless, we’ll use what we have and put it together piece by piece. In the book, “Nag Hammadi Library” there are a couple of things I want to bring to your attention at this time of talking about the Eagle. Now all I’m doing is putting things together to be observed side by side, and compared. You know what I mean.
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This excerpt, from: “The Apocryphon of John” -translated by Frederik Wisse.
(You have to know the different translators because they all translate with their own style).
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html
In this excerpt, we’re looking at it from the point of view of “Yaltabaoth” the first archon, who also goes by the name of “Saklas” and “Samael.”
“And he said to the authorities which attend him, “Come, let us create a man according to the image of god (they think Sophia is god) and according to our likeness, that his image may become a light for us.”
Now look at that. They want knowledge. So they plan to use these forms to capture Man, or Man’s Soul, that Light that we are, and put it into those bodies they fashioned so that they could steal the knowledge and life force energy from us. They really want to steal that light. And that light would represent “awareness,” “consciousness.”
Alright? And we look at this prison planet that they hide the truth from us finding it out. And we can see now, they ARE holding us prisoners, in how ever many different ways they have managed to do, after all this time/space we’ve been around in.
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Ok, now talking about the Eagle, how it appears jet-black to the seers, and they can’t seem to make out any definite form, so they just call it by the representation ‘eagle’ for lack of any better term.
This is from: “On the Origin of the World”
(I think there’s only one translation of this, by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton).
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html
“Then shadow perceived there was something mightier than it, and felt envy; and when it had become pregnant of its own accord, suddenly it engendered jealousy. Since that day, the principle of jealousy amongst all the eternal realms and their worlds has been apparent. Now as for that jealousy, it was found to be an abortion without any spirit in it. Like a shadow, it came into existence in a vast watery substance. Then the bile that had come into being out of the shadow was thrown into a part of chaos. Since that day, a watery substance has been apparent. And what sank within it flowed away, being visible in chaos: as with a woman giving birth to a child - all her superfluities flow out; just so, matter came into being out of shadow, and was projected apart. And it did not depart from chaos; rather, matter was in chaos, being in a part of it.
And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.”
"Which is below all the heavens"....
Now, talking about heavens. This is what I have found by reading Theresa Talea's book.
The first heaven, from what we know about what heavens are...and we know very little....
She talks about this in the section: "Origin and Expansion of Early Creation."
That is the chapter that shows us how the All That Is, The Pure Essence....uhm, came to be known to us. Because there is no way to describe this. Even the term used, is just a term, as it says here:
"It's title as "All That Is, The Pure Essence," is just that - a title, or description that identifies itself as the simple but aware pure Essence, that does not produce any vibration, frequency, tone, sound, colour, or distortion."
So you see? We cannot comprehend this. So the heavens? Well, it's sort of scattered throughout her book, but I put it together while studying this book, so that I, myself, could understand it better. So if I made a mistake putting it together, you can't blame me or her, because I'm just doing the best I can to find the truth. This is what I've found:
The first one, which came about with the All That Is, The Pure Essence AND Eia, is called "A". It says here, in my notebook: "Created matter (Vibrational energy), started with the "A" domain. And in it is "the Highest Self" and the "first Krystar."
Lower down in that domain, the last level of that domain, is a place called, "Cosminyahas."
Then below that is the "Eckasha - Ah" domain. This is what holds the Ah levels; Ah'-yah and Ah-yah-Ya. It also has the vibrational sounds that are KA, RA, YA, SA, TA, HA, LA. I think those are what are used to form creations, but that is before anything called an "atom"...way before. The "Krysthal Spiral stream originates here in the first level" of this domain.
Then below that one, you have the Eckasha - Aah domain. "The Yunasai, a group of Yunasum krystars. First partiki element."
Then the, "Eckasha - 1" domain. "Edonic worlds. "Edomic level."
Then the, "Eckasha - A."
Then "Eckasha"
Then "Ecka"
And last of all the "Veca."
I think below that is the Phantom Realms, or that abyss that they were talking about in the Nag Hammadi Library. But, I'm not sure, so don't take my word for it. Nevertheless, that's what I've found out so far.