Ok so the circle was a test of the individual but also an instrument of societal change.

And you were reptilian humanoids, basically?

Any sort of description of what your cities looked like? Or anything of closest similarity to cities?

I don't remember where I came from yet.

The story is interesting though. Even if the civilization was wiped out, I wonder how they got caught in the death trap and had their memories erased.

I feel trauma makes people more susceptible to the traps. Despondency over losing something like your entire home civilization might crack your identity. I also wonder if they knew the traps were out there. Maybe they were caught off guard.

I mentioned in a post earlier this year that I guess the traps work like a bunch of mirrors. It reflects parts of you back onto yourselves. It reflects things you are uncomfortable enough with so you want to erase the painful parts of yourself.

There is always choice in having our memories erased. There's also choice in where we go next after this body. The traps just take advantage of our own choices. They can't just put an ISBE anywhere.The Buddha got through because he had no illusions about attachment. For most of us, we're just shocked into trying to become a more perfect entity, a desire to try the whole thing over again, to fix a trauma we knew before as if they all could be fixed under these circumstances.

The death traps only control us as much as our will lets them. The thing is we're so attached to our physical bodies and stuff it's keeps us vulnerable to being deflected back.

I also wonder if the circle made people weaker. Maybe there wasn't enough internal reflection. When the civilization disappeared people felt lost for answers when a lot of answers sometimes need to come from within and not just a wiser individual.

Wisdom is a tricky thing. It involves listening sometimes. But it also involves discernment. How do we have our own thoughts in a world where we can know so many ideas of others.

Humans have an advantage somewhat in that they are alone sometimes. In the future, we might know how to be good at both being alone and being with others and that will give us a big advantage to other species who never had their memories erased or telepathy inhibited.

I'm just pondering a few different things here. But interesting story.

@Tazz

"And you were reptilian humanoids, basically?"

I can't see it. I will try to find a way to break the blockage. Just remembering the society doesn't help, because I can see what we did as if we were humans, and it somehow feels wrong. It's like, my mind graps images from fiction to replace the memories.

"Any sort of description of what your cities looked like? Or anything of closest similarity to cities?

Well, I keep coming back to Star Wars visuals, like Mos Eisley, for instance. It's always a desert like environment. It's really difficult to grasp. That stupid blorrg keeps coming back, as if it's easy to remember that, but I don't know why.

@Just another Isby

"I also wonder if the circle made people weaker."

Yes, you are definitely onto something here, but I can't put things together right now. My body needs to sleep.

So, when waking up, I thought about why the circles made people weaker, and I have mixed feelings about that. It's like, in the time back then, when I was part of that culture, it was a perfect system for me. I had no doubt that the circle is perfect in a very idealistic way, just like how people on this planet think that democracy is perfect, not seeing the shadow side.

It was like, society was running fine, at least from my perspective. We also made contact to several "ETs", but they were not part of what was important. They were "primitives" from our point of view, and we were kind of isolationists, like, this is our circle, you have your circle, it's not compatible, just leave it at that. (Part of that is you just can't go to another planet and live there, because you need to adapt first.)

There was a kind of stoic rigidity based on logic, like I present it here on the forums. And there was a problem with the birth rates. I don't know why, it was not part of my knowledge back then. After watching the presentation by Penny Kelly, where she talks about how a takeover of a planet is done, I thought about wether they did something similar to us. We became stagnant somehow, but I don't know wether it was them, or our fault. All I know is that they attacked us out of the blue, and they weren't as primitive as we thought. Sounds like our arrogance was our downfall.

I asked my intuition why I see these abstract, conceptual things, but not the details. The frustrating answer: "You will see when you are ready", combined with the feeling that I don't need the details now, because I am supposed to do other things first.

I hate these kinds of answers.