In the recent "Conversations with Harvey the ET: World War III":

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/featured/videos/harvey-november-2024

Harvey says this:

[4:55] "They will control things. And then, it will look as if you are giving your free will to continue working with them, because of the damn agreements that your leadership signed with them, that we have to respect. Because they signed them of free will."

No, they DID NOT!!!

I'm getting tired of the so called "free will ETs" not understanding that the agreements are NOT BINDING because the governments don't represent the free will of the people. Governments are based on violence, coercion, and secrecy. The ETs already understand that there is no free will involved, and that there is no informed consent. So...

Why do they still respect the fraud?!

It doesn't make sense. Instead, the so called "free will ETs" begin to look like a fraud themselves.

I'm inclined to agree, unfortunately. I share your frustration, and I have difficulty staying convinced that Farsight is genuinely created and governed by those they claim to be. A federation, spanning the entire galaxy, and there seems to be a logical lapse in their fundamental reasoning.

I'm not questioning the idea of supporting free will. I agree, if it's not by free will then by nature it's to some degree the conceptual opposite: slavery. And what do we support? Free will or slavery? But I've spent a fair amount of time on this, particularly about the question as to whether the alleged Eisenhower treaty with ER was contractual to the people.

It simply is not.

The 14th amendment is what would create the US citizen and therefore the legislation that allows for the State Department, tge governing power over the US citizen, and all of its alphabet agencies.

But the Congressional record shows that it was never ratified. It does not legally exist.

A contract requires tacit agreement. Meaning even if you signed something but you spam across media everywhere that you don't agree with any of it worth a damn, it is not tacit.

The Good ETs are part of the problem. They were unwilling to take the leap, but there is another shift happening—they are becoming aware of the impact this creates. They are not here for freedom; they are here because the future has intersected with the past, and we have become part of their reality, part of their responsibility. No one respects humanity… humans do not respect themselves. Freedom is a side effect.

A step back—there are those who desire their values and standards to be tied to a higher existential meaning. For themselves, they will justify it. The victors will impose their values. Power is the standard—power, not justice.

Yes, in the end, we know that there's an enslavement of some kind happening, and an enslavement can't typically be broken by looking for a new master.

Remote viewing seems to be one of the crucial elements for breaking free - because it suggests that truth can be derived by shear collective will (RV data). It doesn't rely exclusively on a physical medium (evidence).

So I can only extend some interest in those that seem to reliably show good remote viewing training.

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There was some dialog that helped me empathize with the plight from Harvey and company when at one point during an interview he stated the problem is the psychological control / brainwashing/ psyop. Whether or not the "contract" was truly legitimate, the problem is by how many eyes it is *seen* as legitimate.

In the same way that the bully in the school wasn't allowed to throw your head in the sand, but the other kids thought it's funny and the teachers can't jeep track of their own asses therefore the act is tolerated. This kind of "agreement" I understand. But it would be important to make that distinction. Is this about logical reasoning and contracts? Or is this about contending with the social climate?

"Remote viewing seems to be one of the crucial elements for breaking free - because it suggests that truth can be derived by shear collective will (RV data)."

But Farsight already established that RV data can be adulterated, that's why they need the help of the ETs to see protected targets. If this is true, we would be dependent on them, which begs the question what they are allowing us to see and what they don't want us to see. If it's not true, it begs the question why they are trying to make us dependent on them.

"Whether or not the "contract" was truly legitimate, the problem is by how many eyes it is *seen* as legitimate."

No! Imagine it's only one person on the whole planet who doesn't agree. Is it a right to enslave that person just because the majority "legitimates" it? If you believe that, you believe in slavery. It doesn't matter how many people are enslaved.

"In the same way that the bully in the school wasn't allowed to throw your head in the sand, but the other kids thought it's funny and the teachers can't jeep track of their own asses therefore the act is tolerated."

Doesn't make it right.

It all boils down to the question: What crimes are you willing to tolerate in exchange for power? And whoever is willing to tolerate a crime – which always is a violation of self-ownership – is neither a free will being nor good.

You don't become good just because you want to or say it. You need to act accordingly, and the so called "good ETs" don't do that. They tolerate evil for mysterious reasons. Why doesn't Harvey tell us about how they stopped human trafficking to other planets?

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/71003-the-good-ets-and-human-trafficking

Why doesn't Harvey educate Earth humans about what real freedom is and how it is based on self-ownership? Making people understand how freedom actually works would be the first thing I would do if I wanted to free a prison planet. Well, it's what I'm doing, so...

And I couldn't care less wether the Boss Lady is admired or not. Maybe that was a hint that she's an admiral, but why should we care about these details? We are enslaved and they are torturing our children on a daily basis. If the "good ETs" want to free us and are millions of years ahead of us, just end it!!! Who cares about some agreements of a corrupt evil government?!

Manuel, my point is not about a moral issue. There's 2 hypothetical scenarios here.

1. "We resolved in our deep matrixy wisdom that the laws are correct and this contract is valid and oh darn you're all screwed for picking a loser leader who sold you out."

2. "Yup that contract is garbage and illegitimate but the problem is too many dumbasses on your side still think it counts and unfortunately getting you unenslaved also requires us to unconvince you of things and we have weapons but if you still believe their garbage they'll give you better weapons and we'll be screwed."

I agree that if the argument for nonintervention is about littany then it doesn't make sense.

If the argument for nonintervention is the tedious psychology of persuasion then that could make a little more sense to me.

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And oh yes, even good RV data seems can all be a ruse. They did suggest once the mentally stronger you become the more you can see through the illusions.

This is all the more reason for isbes to splinter into different groups and try to gather data independently

@Tazz

Yes, maybe the point is to upset us so people get off their asses and do it themselves. Which would be some sort of reverse psychology that becomes necessary if you are confronted with lazy people.

But people who see a little bit more of reality – and I'm speaking of the rampant child abuse on this planet, institutional and hidden, how do I say it: It's a torture. And then there are ETs who say "we are millions of years ahead, we have all the weapons, and we control the solar system, but that child abuse that's building the foundation of your psychological prison... nah, let's not look at that.

It's not disclosure if you don't disclose the child abuse.

Maybe the ETs themselves are ashamed? I'm still having this theory that they are the ones who are responsible for the prison planet in the first place, at least partially, and now want to rectify their own mistake. It would make sense, because it explains why they are so invested in this war.

The last board meeting still baffles me. It looks like as if Harvey and the board meetings have nothing to do with each other.

I agree with most of you guys are saying here.

+ another post about the same topic:

https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/70404-can-one-trust-a-superior-entity