I had a lucid dream a few years ago where I was in a conference room of sorts. I was told I was on another planet and the other people in the room were representatives of different planets. The people on the planet I was on had brought the rest of us there to check on whether our races were ready for contact. I said I thought humans were ready although a lot of them would be pretty surprised and still needed to control their emotions better. Later they took me outside. It was nighttime and I remember how bright the sky was with stars. Millions and millions of them...it made night not so dark. That was striking to me...I had never pictured being on a surface of a planet like that before...maybe near the galactic center or a spiral arm of stars. They then told me they made transportation devices (like cars) out of materials like plants or materials that were more organic and environmentally friendly. They also told me they wondered why humans didn't do that themselves yet since we already have the technology. That was pretty much the dream. It sure felt real when I woke up.

The antennas don't really see anything very special by themselves. Although they could build devices that pick up all sorts of exotic signals and translate them into light signals that the antennas could understand.

It's sort of like a second pair of eyes on the top of a head but they actually couldn't pick up a picture from the natural world at all. Each antenna just picks up a concentrated light beam like a signal.

The encounter with the 4d beings was a visit from a special group of ambassadors of another civilization. The beings were biological in nature, but operating fully immersed in 4 spatial dimensions. You can imagine a heart that pumps blood into veins that travel not only vertical, lateral, and posterior, but also this 4th "direction". These beings came with serious warnings

Tell us more about the physiology head to toe. How does it differ from the 4D beings and Earth humans?

I still have no idea if it's all baloney, or 20% or 80%. But it's all static, like I didn't have to think it up piece by piece and remained the same.

I guess there's 3 subcategories to follow for 4d entities

*how they were encountered

*How they "entered" the space (or never fully entered)

*How they're... Composed. And the question now sounds like how they're composed so I'll add that

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4d organism

Imagine you had multitude of bodies you control simultaneously, and each body wouldn't work good independently but becomes reliable when combined with all the other bodies. But none of these bodies are stacked beside or on top of each other. They still all exist somewhat parallel. And between them is still a texture and substance that morphs between bodies.

Still doesn't feel like I really explained it. Might help if I go into the encounter

our mental space/conscious perceives in 3D, in fact i believe it's purpose is to translate everything into 3D which information can become limited, our consciousness however can perceive all dimensions. To give the example, while register my dreams i had one encounter with an helicopter that i've never seen before, strange structure, this helicopter took us (me and group of people) to another place outside this physical reality, like i was working or imprisoned like a slave to a group of people that look like humans but didn't felt like it, it felt like my mind was showing me one thing but could probably be another ET, just like the helicopter that while writing i was having the feeling of a more ship like structure.

@Tazz

Please describe the encounter, the warnings, and what happened next.

The 4D beings was a visit.

At this point it makes more sense to draw a parallel with our own world because I can't think of specifics like what exactly was a TV like, or what entertainment was there. But they (this old civilization) certainly had all kinds of things familiar to our own world. But here comes the parallel.

Imagine our government gets contacted by some civilization from outside. In our case we're already being secretly controlled by some "outside" force but pretend we weren't. Just a humble civilization doing our own thing with no prison bars to deal with.

So this message comes in a very official manner. Very polite, carefully crafted, long, and inviting. Slightly contractual. Like "let's meet in peace - with all these details" sort of contractual.

And none of this is a big secret kept from the public. The official message goes down the official channels and gets distributed to media outlets.

Imagine if one day you got a bunch of "breaking news" on all the channels like CNN and FOX and NBC whatever (and BBC, RT, etc). And it's all basically the same. "We apologize to interrupt your regular broadcasting today, as our government received a message this morning (and credit to who originally received the message and how it was passed on) - and we had an actual division like "interplanetary foreign affairs division."

And the letter, in summary, reads a bit like this-

"Dear Earthlings. We're a civilization from some distant time/space/reality/whatever and it seems convenient for us at this time to pass through your time/space/reality/whatever. So we thought we'd pay you a visit if you like. We have some information for you I think you'll find helpful and we always benefit from new positive relations. Anyways, we'd love to visit for a little while with an embassy team of ours while our civilizations briefly intersect. It's hard to explain who and what we are, but in time you'll surely understand. Please let us know your wishes, and reply back on this channel. In the meantime please enjoy this sort of encyclopedia about us."

Of course I'm just making an informal jist of it.

I'll add more soon.

PS, it's not Earth, but the beings in general were called Nalinaks and their civilization was the Nalakki federation. (Or so those are the sounds I get). And to call it a federation is a bit ambitious. They were a modest group in a recluse sector occupying only a few planets.

So what happened then? Were they welcomed? How did they "appear"?

@Tazz

Don't even bother explaining anything to Manuel. He's only here trying to troll you. He neither gets anything you say nor does he want to. He's trying to debunk everything because it doesn't fit his worldview. save your breath. Those of us who can understand it don't need endless emails for you to describe anything you mean...and then these bottom feeders like Manuel will waste your energy in endless "debates" which really amount to nothing more than him trying to feel you out for your information he can use against you. That's been his modus operandi ever since he joined these forums. If anything, the reason he resonates with Passio so much is because he himself is another Satanist trying to disrupt the people trying to expose the game lol.

So you know how in Arrival the whole vessel they arrive in is basically a big aquarium?

This idea of incubating one environment completely separate from another in a vessel can extend to a lot of things.

Let's say for example I had something that's full of organisms that basically operate in 2 dimensions. The inside of the vessel would have to be different from the outside right down to the subatomic level. But this is not so different in principal from separating a wet environment inside and having a dry environment outside.

Yes I do have more. And no I don't wholeheartedly believe this necessarily as a real historical thing of our timeline. But I did start talking about these things as a child

"The inside of the vessel would have to be different from the outside right down to the subatomic level."

Yes. Just imagine a paper in front of you, with 2D beings living inside it, and you want to make an appearance to them. How would you do it? Writing on the surface of the paper wouldn't work, because it's just the surface. Poke a hole in it? That would destroy their environment. So, you need to manipulate the paper on the subatomic level to create something the 2D beings can see and grasp.

@Jon: This is an example of logical consistency. I can't debunk what he's saying, because there are no contradictions (so far).

And that's the stuff I'm really interested in.

The 4d beings used holographic visual aids to help audiences visualize how they exist as "bodies". Imagine if you had to "show yourself" to a species that pretty much has no analogue for what you are. You could instead dhow them things like the blood vessels in your veins, or the imprint that your body leaves on a "surface"

These were all things that they did to help others understand. They entered the planetsry environment in their "space suits" but really it was again just an artificial environment that contains them while the outside remains in 3d and moves around like a 3d object.

In the end they did not provide a great deal of technology for us to advance.

Here I go saying "us." I'm compelled to say it that way even though it sounds a bit stupid. I won't edit it out this time.

The whole thing honestly left us with more answers than questions. To an almost frustrating degree.

Anyhow, they engaged with the population like celebrities. Imagine if you had Aliens come in and agree to come as a guest on the View, and do concerts and go through even things like 60 minutes and hard talk. Basically it was like a whole sensation of the era (except our media was not basically a bunch of adrenochrome sucking pedovores)

So the initial letter they sent also kind of outlined their plan to engage with us, if it was agreeable. First they would do introductions, share in some sort of intercultural celebration, and then eventually have a quite serious conversation with some of the more crucial information they'd like to share. Soon after they would ceremonially do goodbyes and who knows if we'd ever see them again.

The serious information they had was that they believe we would soon encounter a very serious war. I think this was before the galaxy got to the tail end of its holocaust.

The solar system had some sort of dampening field making it difficult for ships to travel. An engineering initiative had begun to start correcting it. The 4d beings warned that this could be a crucial error. And instead of trying to clear it up, we could theoretically use the dampening field asca defense. They offered some engineering ideas to do so.

There was some back and forth q and a about it. There were questions like "how do we know you're not trying to deceive us" - but in the end their warnings were heavily considered.

I don't know what the outcome was.

So when I used to think about this I thought "damn, this might make a sexy science fiction story I can publish" but in honesty I hate the idea of even selling it as fiction. Moreso I get more interested in recollecting things as "accurately" as I know.

And yes, could still just be weird imagination. No clue.

Well, you can tell me what direction to go from there I guess. And if I've bored anyone to tears, umm ... have a cry and dust yourself I guess.

"I don't know what the outcome was."

You are here, so...

"you can tell me what direction to go from there I guess"

Describe more of how "your" people looked. What kind of species where they? Bipedal? Carnivores? How many sexes? Did they raise children in families?

"reptilian penguins" is the funny phrase I come to.

How nice if I could tell you we were proud gracious elven like sages.

No we were a bunch of pudgy little f*ckers. About 4 foot. Something about bodies that are fairly versatile in several environments especially for transportation. Could sleep standing up. Or "standing" it was more like sitting.

Very fear based. It seems that modern reptilians are like anger based, or the fear immediately transforms to anger. But we were jumpy, fairly non aggressive. The type that if a big explosion happened all the parents would clamour away frantically and forget about their own children.