This is the response I'm getting from most people when I tell them about Grusch's interview and claims. Even when I then point out the additional bits about going to the Investigator Generals, and that other witnesses who were actually first hand (where Grusch is 2nd to 3rd hand) and testified under oath (although, frankly, that means little to me).

It definitely seems that the public is just so far asleep that this is virtually meaningless!

Reminds me of the dreams I've had about this - trying to tell people about all the lights I see, that they're coming, etc etc... It's only when they finally come down to within about 50m that everyone gets excited ... at which points I say "yeah, I was trying to tell you. Oh, BTW, bye!"

I think only one person I've mentioned this to seemed to get the implications...

(OTOH, I told one of my students about RV, and she got really excited!!!)

Yes im also getting that feeling, however there are two things from my experience that i want point, one is the fact that many reject even the possibility, 1st i think they've been programmed to that belief system OR, that i am more in alignment with, is they automatically reject due to negative belief systems, disruption of their reality.
This is a subject that has the possibility to disrupt their notion of existence that's why it is a subject that has to be dealt with space for everyone.
I've seen many friends over the years rejecting my testimonies of encounters, not only in dream state but specially during the day, not only with this subject but also with others, they reject due to fear of going crazy, i saw that when i presented them with the story of chem trails for example, they saw precisely what i was talking about they were seeing with their own eyes and still due to fear they completely reject what they were seeing.

The second point is one that many of us don't talk that much wich is the fact that we are living in a simulation, wich means we
co-create our own reality as a collective where each one of us experience our own reality.
This is also a common knowledge of shamanic practices, we know that we experience our own thoughts, emotions in alignment with our intentions and actions and we also know that at the same time our souls or higher self co-create from a higher plane in what we call the unified filed quantum or the matrix, where every parallel reality exists at the same time.
So every interaction is due to an agreement btw the two or more involved and what topic/reality we will experience and in what ways, and that experience is influenced by our own belief systems.
That being said I've tried and manifest that reality with some other friends realizing the negative belief system that creates resistance in their acceptance, in other words i talk about my experience without trying to "make" them see or impose my belief, later i came to found out they also were aware of the existence of et's, some had that experience, and were also open to my testimonies.

One of them, a Judge, talked to me about her encounter and experience with an ufo right in the backyard of her house at night. Also another friend of mine from the army, a sergeant was in alignment with that belief, and was completely open to talk about so much so, he started to give is own opinions regarding the ufo's and alien activity. We were even talking about what Courtney talked with Harvey saying the oppressive will try to dismantle the army forces later on.

From what we are seeing, that is already happening, and is happening from within the departments, they are lowering the military education, wich is a huge factor of the military discipline and rigor, they are starting with ideologies that weakening the personnel (from our point of view) wich can lead to a lack of values within the army forces and other departments, they are starting to invest very little in personnel training with the premises of budget filtration and limitation, we are seeing this also with some friends that work for police department, We need to change our ways to a more spiritual stand point, but there's a balance point in all of this, there are values from the military also valuable as a collective (at least this is my view on what's happening).
So these are all topics that we have been discussion from the notion of oppressive forces.

Some peoples reality is going to kick hard on them, some need to acknowledge little by little for them to absorb at they own pace, but one thing is certain that one person is going to influence another, and another and another.

We cannot discourage ourselves by the little we thing we are doing for we have no idea of how much we can change and also there is a momentum going on at this time that we need to take advantage of, this is how i think.

Another point is from you said is how much that person that get the implications is going to later on influence others and the same goes for that student about RV.
When we think about it, this is amazing what you have done.

"If we don't give up, we never lose."

I think the "meh whatever" response is the central problem to all of this. And it's been engineered to be persistent and look like it's not engineered, just natural.

My own personal "meh whatever" is a bit more like this - I have a bit of growing resentment to what I like to call the "fear not" (fn) submovement within the disclosure movement (dm)

It goes something like this-

DM: "there's aliens everywhere! Oh my god, take out your camera "
FN: "no problem! Fear not! Bashar and gaia.com says it's all getting fixed for us! They beat the bad guys for us, they're working behind the scenes for us. They'll change our diapers for us"
DM: "oh my god psychic power and even telekinesis we're way more powerful than we thought we just don't realize it"
FN: "yeah we know all about it. Fear not! All you have to do is go to your higher self and click your heels and go: I want a different future, I want a different future, I want a different future. And just like that your mansion and your barbie car and your tuxedo servants will all arrive at your doorstep happy to serve you"
DM: "oh my god look they're raping a bunch of kids in weird seances and even bragging about it in pop culture using disney and hollyweird and pizzagate sucking adrenochrome and giant granite bloodletting basins in National parks"
FN: "fear not! That's just a fear tactic. All you have to do is shut your eyes real tight and push out your higher vibration love energy love energy love energy, go on Oprah and cry and feel better and tell everybody about your amazing solution"

This dialect starts to make me literally kinda sick. So my "meh whatever" is sort of "now what"

I was pretty much becoming one of those second amendment caliphate waco nuts until Courtney made that Harvey video that said: "they don't care if you have weapons, it's trinkets because they can just mind control the shit out of you and take it all away. It's not that you can't go there with the weapons etc. But without the mind stuff it won't mean anything"

Anyhow that's my answer in summary to all new discoveries. It's"cool. And now what"

Grusch's interview is indeed fantastic

I'm also seeing the "meh" affect. But, we've been through this so many times that I completely understand that response. It's been amost two weeks since Grusch's interview broadcast, and not much has happened. But then, I have noticed more UFO themes popping up in different genres in all my media feeds. FAST Disclosure may mean a few weeks or months.

I agree with you that most people won't get excited until the UFO is 50m away from them. I presume it's due to a lack of consideration for the implications. There's a lack of interest because people don't see how this will impact them directly, and timely. As far as most people know, there's no prison system, no reincarnation, and no mind-wipes. "There may be aliens, but they're over there, and I'm over here."

The question remains: How do I tell people how this will impact them directly? Do I go into the history of ufology, then the RV reports of secret military projects that took place, and then explain how farsight started and show them all of the evidence on Farsight's Human News that proves RV is real, and THEN, finally explain the Slave Planet system, the entities involved, and that they have to raise their vibration and avoid Death Traps when they die? I don't think that would go very well.

If this is a "Fast Disclosure," then we should be in a position of answering questions from interested people, and not knocking on doors to announce how this all works. For Fast Disclosure to work, we would need a MAJOR EVENT to take place. We need mass sightings in multiple locations AT THE SAME TIME. We need the public to be psychically contacted (not everyone, but more than a few channellers). If this is the real deal, then there's no reason to not do so. If we're stuck in a slave prison, and our "loved ones" are really here, they should show themselves. I'm not requesting military intervention, but I am requesting physical presence and/or psychic contact.

I pointed my 19 year old kid towards this site, particularly the Giza video, and along with it the YouTube channel UnchartedX which takes a look at ancient stonework from an engineering perspective and the response I got was "OMG how can you be so racist? Don't you know that it's all an anti-semitic conspiracy theory?!". My response was that shamanic journeying works (as I know from experience) as does reiki so what's wrong with having a go at remote viewing so you can go and see for yourself? The response was "Nope".

Meh... Whatever.

"Meh, whatever" was my response. No sense trying to debate a point with someone who sticks their fingers in their ears and screams when triggered by their conditioning.

I agree with Shiningbrow, it's all the indoctrination system put in place for years in the making, it's the desensitize program for the people.. a huge diference btw those from the decades ago comparing to the kids of today, although not all of them.

No matter that Meh effect might be, it's not going to stop me creating the collective reality, to fight for bringing awareness by feeding the narrative, in other words, it is up to those that know, those that are aware, those that are conscious enough of whats behind the veil that can lead the way and by doing don't give up and fall into the entropy of all of those that affected by the "Meh" effect.
It is now clear that our "work" or whatever it is.. is creating ripple effects in energy structure of the collective. That means that our focus and dedication brings the change with it.
Nothing is lost.. we just keep moving forward and eventually by resonance we will attracked more people into awareness.
I can tell you that this subject of disclosure process that has been going on is something that i dont even hear it in my country, now, many believe but not much is dedicated to.
So we do our part! We came together.

Ah yes. The captor's age old social engineering tricks. It's not just "meh whatever" it's "how dare you." By making false flag atrocity operations under every flag imaginable, mind controlling a bunch of idiots amongst their peers, there is nothing you can claim without some offensive sneer.

Buzz the ottoman empire to produce a bunch of banksters using sleazy schemes to take everyone's money, blame the jews. End it off with the Rochstag fire, at the time in Germany referred to as "terrorism from the Arabs" - sound familiar? Buzz the roman empire to burn libraries, kill and torture women as witches, invoke dumb ideas like blood letting. Blame the british! Remote viewing and looking at ufos is evil because it's witchcraft. Supporting the claims of messiah's passed is evil because it's supporting the Christians and catholics because they raped and killed so many blaming witchcraft.

Destroy all ideologies with moralistic imperatives and replace them with countless historical records of evil in every form under every form, so that absolutely anything you do . . . is evil.

So just be a slave. Stop questioning, thinking, or trying.

The deep genius behind our captors began with their first trick . . . making us as a species a whole bunch of idiots. Tell your 19 year old.

EDIT: the forum seems a bit glitchy. I wanted to add some facts to a post and things went awry. When I couldn't fix it I had to delete and repost.

Yes...Yesss..

Be aware, Be thoughfull, Be minded of your own thoughts!

I've tried working this info into casual conversations with friends and relatives. Skepticism and condescending comments are all I get even to the point where my sanity comes into question. If I persist they shut down and absolutely refuse to discuss the matter further. It reminds me of a quote from the movie "Cool Hand Luke". "What we have here is a failure to communicate. Some men you just can't get through to........" Any suggestions as to how to deal with people like this? Or should I just leave them be.

It’s on NBC News now. Something is happening:

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