Hi phoenix,
i was on Dan`s Golden Thread, but he is highly compartmentalized and i was also on Avalon:
Bill and Kerry was quite a good team, with Bill being the voice of reason.
The Heather-material; Abraxas; Rulers of the World; Atticus; Inelia Benz etc. should ring a bell for you.
They got targeted and baited when they got traction and Kerry was weak enough to go for it.
I actually despise her for what she did subsequently.

Real life joke: Enlightened Kerry goes into a prison to meet inmate Cpt. Richards and comes out with this secret: " You would not believe what Aliens will do for chocolate!"

It is good to have some vets around, because this is getting VERY serious, and the Padawans might need some help.

Lets go back to Bielek and the Wingmakers.
We know now that on the current timeline there will be in 2700+ AD a humanity which lives in a socialistic heaven: Free this and that, as long as a basic contribution to society is made. There is a kind of social credit-score for every individual in place from which the value of services are deducted. Life is „easy“. Also there are restrictions in their abilities of what to do and where to go.
Severe violations end with the „disappearance“ of the subject. Whosoever does not want to continue to live like that can leave this society and go into the wilderness, without the ability to return. Bielek was not able to access any information about the situation of people in the wilderness (Sounds like Hunger Games).
There is (will be) no drive or incentive to improve oneself's inner or material status.
The Wingmakers created this society, which as we know now, will end somewhere in 3000+ AD, with Earth being destroyed and lifeless. This is how Humanity will end on our current timeline.

Bielek indicated that the Wingmakers were not happy about the overall outcome, which leads to the question: Why will the Wingmakers not change the result? They control the timestream, so surely they would, if they can.
The answer is: They can NOT change that outcome, otherwise we would not even talk about it. The reason for their unability is not clear, but clear is that they themselves can not change the outcome.
This is the reason why they have taken Bielek onto a tour into different points in time and then brought him back: So that he can report the dead-end into which Humanity is racing. His information is/will be crucial in changing the future outcome.
This is why the Wingmakers did what they did.
For me, this is the only locical explanation. Any other views on that?

It could be argued like that, indeed. Then we end up with: „Anything is possible“, which means nothing to act upon.
But how can the little actions by humans change a timeline involving cosmic and extraterrestial intervention/events? A bit, by postponeing it, actions like the Dulce-war. But a postponement is not a radical shift within the overall picture.

That's why i focussed more on prophecy, specially from people who have a good track record.
This sounds strange, i know, as there is a lot of trash around. But i found seers which have indeed a good track record. Are the Padawans here on FS not also trained to „see“ things, which untrained people can not? Why should, there in the multitude of people, not exist a few gifted people who have same abilities which are spontaniously triggered.
Additionally you have subjects which were chosen and triggered by ET/Mary/God. You can call the actors whatever label you like, but if you would look closely, then a very strange simmilarity emerges:
If you compare the prophecies of different competent seers, then a semi-clear picture of the future emerges, which they all share.
And it aint pretty.
This is why i post on the „Fatima“ and „War in Heaven“ threats.
There is an untapped source of info here, which can be utilized, which unfortunately has been „poo-pooed“ here on FS.

Government agencies and also the „Elite“ are much more cleverer in that respect, i know that.
This has been clearly spelled out by Dr. Anderson in the Wingmaker interview:
„
Anne:
"What makes BST such an imperative to Fifteen and the Labyrinth Group?"
Dr. Anderson:
"The ACIO has access to many ancient texts that contain prophecies of the earth. These have been accumulated over the past several hundred years through our network of secret organizations of which we are a part. These ancient texts are not known in academic institutions, the media, or mainstream society; they are quite powerful in their depictions of the 21st century. Fifteen was made aware of these texts early on when he became Director of Research for the ACIO, and this knowledge only fueled his desire to develop BST."
Anne:
"What were these prophecies and who made them?"
Dr. Anderson:
"The prophecies were made by a variety of people who are, for the most part, unknown or anonymous, so if I told you their names you would have no recognition. You see, time travel can be accomplished by the soul from an observational level . . . that is to say, that certain individuals can move in the realm of what we call vertical time and see future events with great clarity, but they are powerless to change them. There are also those individuals who have, in our opinion, come into contact with the WingMakers and are provided messages about the future, which they had recorded in symbol pictures or extinct languages like Sumerian, Mayan, and Chakobsan.
"The messages or prophecies that they made had several consistent strands or themes that were to occur in the early part of the 21st century, around the year 2011. Chief among these was the infiltration of the major governments of the world, including the United Nations, by an alien race. This alien race was a predator race with extremely sophisticated technologies that enabled them to integrate with the human species. That is to say, they could pose as humanoids, but they were truly a blend of human and android.
"This alien race was prophesied to establish a world government and rule as its executive power. It was to be the ultimate challenge to humankind's collective intelligence and survival. These texts are kept from the public because they are too fear-provoking and would likely result in apocalyptic reprisals and mass paranoia . . . "
Anne:
"Are you saying what I think you're saying? That anonymous prophets from God knows where and when, have seen a vision of our future take-over by a race of robots? I mean you do realize how . . . how unbelievable that sounds?"
Dr. Anderson:
"Yes . . . I know it sounds unbelievable . . . but there are diluted versions of this very same prophecy in our religious texts, it's just that the alien race is portrayed as the antichrist; as if the alien race was personified in the form of Lucifer. This form of the prophecy was acceptable to the gatekeepers of these texts, and so they allowed a form of the prophecy to be distributed, but the notion of an alien race was eliminated."
Anne:
"Why? And who exactly is it who's censoring what we can read and can't? Are you suggesting there's a secret editorial committee that previews books before their distribution?"
Dr. Anderson:
"This is a very complicated subject and I could spend a whole day just acquainting you with the general structure of this control of information. Most of the world's major libraries have collections of information that are not available to the general public. Only scholars are authorized to review these materials, and usually only on site. In the same way, there are manuscripts that were controversial and posited theories that were sharply different than the accepted belief systems of their day. These manuscripts or writings were banished by a variety of sources, including the Vatican, universities, governments, and various institutions.
"These writings are sought out by secret organizations that have a mission to collect and retain this information. These organizations are very powerful and well funded, and they can purchase these original manuscripts for a relatively small amount of money. Most of the writings are believed to be hocus-pocus anyway, so libraries are often very willing to part with them for an endowment or modest contribution. Also, most of these are original writings having never been published, being that they originated from a time before the printing press.
"There is a network of secret organizations that are loosely connected through the financial markets and their interests in worldly affairs. They are generally centers of power for the monetary systems within their respective countries, and are elitists of the first order. The ACIO is affiliated with this network only because it is rightly construed that the ACIO has the best technology in the world, and this technology can be deployed for financial gain through market manipulation.
"As for an editorial committee . . . no, this secret network of organizations doesn't review books before publication. Its holdings are exclusively in ancient manuscripts and religious texts. They have a very strong interest in prophecy because they believe in the concept of vertical time and they have a vested interest in knowing the macro-environmental changes that can effect the economy. You see for most of them, the only game on this planet that is worth playing is the acquisition of ever-increasing wealth and power through an orchestrated manipulation of the key variables that drive the economic engines of our world."
Anne:
"So if they're so smart about the future, and they believe these prophecies, what are they doing to help protect us from these alien invaders?"
Dr. Anderson:
"They help fund the ACIO....“ “

"They help fund the ACIO....“

The same ACIO which has lost the BST, as mentioned earlier.

It looks like we are in for a very rough ride.

The above video is a good example how Gov-control is working:
The man acts like a clown, but that seems more like a show. The presentation is something which was known already 30 years ago, but it does not answer any questions, but provides only more.
Have you noticed the elaborate charts of the hierachies ? Anything odd about it?
Well, where are the Lizzies there? They are only mentioned in some sideremarks and they are not in the charts.
This man is following a set protocol, and rule No.1 of that protocol is:
Do NOT mention the Reptilians !
MUFON is long known to have been under Gov-control and here you can see this control in action.

He provides some info, but without any possible reason/cotext/scenario which would explain why/who etc.
He says Humanity is been modified and trained in invasive mind-control techniques, but can not provide any clue why this is done.
The info given by him fits into the situation described by Alex Collier.
These hybrid-trainees will be the fighting force for the Lizzies in the future. Imagine a psychic warrior who can RV into the future battlefield, sees the capabilities and intentions of the enemy before the battle and can influence/mind-control enemy-leaders from the distance. This will be an unstoppable force, under the guidance of the Lizzies.
Alex Collier mentions that the Aliens from the future are aware of this threat, and they will not allow it to materialize.

Dr. Jocobs also mentions the training to lead others to the rescue, which would likely be an alien ship.
Why that training? Well, there seems to be a threat which requires the removal of subjects into safety. This threat has not to be explained, which leads to the conclusion that the threat must be obvious to everybody. Only the solution to avoid that threat does not seem so obvious or common.
Which uncommon threat and solution can that be? Entering an Alien ship to avoid a planetary threat is an uncommon action. For commons to consider this scenario, the threat must be clearly visible and obvious in the sky.
Something like this:

I suggest to read „The Adam and Eve Story“ by Chan Thomas.
A sanitized and approved copy for the commons are provided by the CIA here:

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8.pdf

You should know that the original version had over 300 pages, but that version was destroyed by GOV. The second (more „sanitized“) version is hard to come by, but if anyone is interested, maybe i can organize a download-link. Otherwise stick with the 57-page „truth“ , provided with courtesy by your caring GOV....

This book is a treasure-trove, but i will limit myself.

What makes a book by a geologist so interesting?
1. That the first edition was rigorously suppressed by GOV:
ALL sold copies were retrieved and the autor was made understood that in no way he will be allowed any further publishing in this field.
2. That brilliant T. Chan was - despite the pressure – able to publish much later a shorter version of that/a book.
3. That this book starts like this:
„ to General Hal Grant
and his wonderful family,
to General LeMay and Admiral Taylor,
to the Joint Staff of that time,
for their inspiring encouragement
without which
this book might not exist.

The book actually proves that a cyclic cosmic catastrophy is striking Earth every ~11500 years. This has been proven by this expert geologist and the response of the GOV when the information was published, confirms it. Here you have it: An info, certified by GOV!
This info fits into the picture Al Bielek was reporting: The shapes of the continents were changed in 2147 AD and the population at ~300 million.

More interesting should be the omittances, which must be frequent if you consider that from the original over 300 pages only 120 were left. (The rest is the „Aftermath“...) I will not re-read this book because of FS, but i found what i was looking for.
Dr Jacobs mentioned the training of the hybrids to lead/guide the commons to somewhere „safe“.
I expained further the situation might be alien ships coming for the „rescue“.
On page 187/196 it says:

„ This is about a legend. I have struggled all through the
writing of this shortest of pieces as to where to put it, and I finally
was forced into this location for lack of a better place for it.
This is not "a" legend. I have found this legend countless
times, which puts some aura of authenticity to it. Since it came from
many widely separated places, if it did happen, it's more than a
supreme coincidence that it did happen in so many places over the
world concurrently. If it's a conspiracy to create so many identical
legends, it would have taken an incredible, comprehensive and
titanic effort to formulate it all over the world, and have not one
person give away the fraud.
The legend is this: At the beginning of a cataclysm, or maybe
just minutes or hours before the start, a plethora of space vehicles
descends and picks up those whom they can so that they may
survive.
The legends describe the scramble to board the
survivors-to-be and the many space vehicles landing at each
location. Only survivors not taken could relate it.
If it happens to you, be prepared for their ability to
communicate with you so that you hear them in your head before
they land. Answer; and always be sure to think precisely the words
you say, for it is your thoughts that they receive. May the Great
Designer be with you. „

Got it?

One sentence is particularly telling: „ Only survivors not taken could relate it.“
Only the survivors of the cataclysm, which had decided NOT to board the alien ships and had remained on Earth, were the ones telling the legend.
The others never came back.....

I have heard of some of this and It sounds interesting. I have heard others talk about this as well on other sites.

Get on the ships and you become someone's lunch I have heard too.

Differing opinion I guess, not sure which one is right.

I find this guy's voice somewhat annoying, but he does a fairly good job of explaining the Postlude (of The Adam & Eve Story by Chan Thomas), as it relates to his specialty and/or focus:

Part 2

Part 3

He obviously runs on and on, to a fault, and some might want to argue over points like whether or not "The Adam and Eve Story" was actually classified by CIA. However, this is irrelevant when listening to his central arguments, and generally-speaking when examining the data within this book.

Anyway, thanks MB, for bringing it into this conversation, as it is indeed critical intel for next 50 years or so. Passing these data onto future generations (how many more they'll be is anybody's guess), may help assist them with making the requisite preparations, albeit if only mental preps...

=== FYI - revised thread title to better encompass direction of discourse ===

Or perhaps all this government nonsense goes away. The future according to Bashar by 2050 is anarchy (and no not the mad max reality that Hollywood has brainwashed everyone into thinking when they hear that word)

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8sXd6GFqN2JJDLTOpG-Qz_Qeqe_TvPpP

I saw the reference to underground bases, and it made me think of an old novel.

There is a similarity to an apocalyptic scenario written about 100 years ago. It was a short book called the "time machine".

Perhaps you have read it. In the story the inventor moves way into earth future where he discovers the following.

A simple race peacefully living in a world of collapsing building of monumental design and the scientist cannot understand how this simple race could have built this world.

This is until he encounters the race underground ie - The Morlocks-- an underground race running machinery and who are carnivorous. I believe most commentaries refer to the split in races as a battle between the upper classes (living idle lives) and the working classes toiling below (running the machinery of the planet or cities) .

However perhaps it could double for a possible future of Earth for other reasons. There are opinions expressed on alternative sites that the "Elite" have collected most of the scientists into their pay and control.

It is these elites and their scientists it is said that have a guaranteed ticket to a protected underground base . Why they should need underground bases is the mysterious question.

The strange thing is that there is a well known (ufologist) for lack of a better word who thinks H G Wells was channelling something or someone.

He felt H G Wells (the author of the book) was receiving information from someone as it seems now ( 100 or so years later) like a possible future for Earth.

If its not true then perhaps it would make the novel more interesting as you read it. Now if I haven't convinced any of you to read (or re-read) the novel--- At least I have convinced myself to re-read it !

I found your train of posts very interesting.

This came from a large body of work-- I am not the author of this material. The web site says it is not a human being that authored this material but beings from higher dimensions.

For it is always difficult for a free nation to exist around unfree nations. It is a delicate situation and has been an ongoing challenge for those free races whom you may consider to be the Allies of Humanity.

It is important to have this larger perspective. Otherwise, you will not understand what restrains your potential allies and why they are not interfering in the world today. They have, through secret means, sent an expedition to be near the Earth to witness the alien Intervention that is taking place here—an Intervention carried on by more unscrupulous races and organizations who seek to gain control of the world and its people through subtle and persuasive means.

Your Allies are here to provide wisdom and guidance and the perspective that humanity will need to comprehend the neighborhood of space into which you are emerging and what your advantages and disadvantages there are.

Witnesses to the Alien Intervention. Indeed, there are great disadvantages because other worlds view your world with envy, and they see humanity in its warlike, divided state destroying the wealth and the value of this world. This, more than anything else, has led to the Intervention that is occurring here today.

[The Allies] expedition that is here [in the local universe] to observe this Intervention and to report on its activities and intentions is functioning here without the awareness of the free nations’ governments. This is very important to understand. For these governments could be held accountable for the fact that humanity is gaining benefit from these free nations, which violates the agreements that the free nations have established—agreements of non-interference in the affairs of the Greater Community.

Such is the price they have had to pay to keep the Greater Community out of their regions and to avoid ongoing interference and attempts at persuasion that have plagued them for so very long.

It is for this reason that the Allies will not describe themselves, or give their names, or speak of their home worlds. For this expedition is functioning to serve humanity in secret, without the awareness or approval of greater powers, even without the awareness and approval, officially speaking, of the governments of their own nations.

It is a delicate situation. To understand this, you have to really consider the difficulty of establishing and maintaining freedom amongst greater powers where freedom is suppressed and avoided. It is a problem that humanity will have to face as it proceeds, as the human family emerges into a Greater Community of intelligent life.

How does a race such as yours maintain its freedom and self-determination amidst the presence of powerful and persuasive forces who will seek to undermine your confidence, your unity and your courage?

It is not a battle of weapons. It is not a battle of military might. It is a battle of will and intentions, a battle that is being played out [in] the mental environment—a great environment of influence where more powerful minds can influence weaker ones, an environment that humanity knows very little about.

The free nations in this part of the universe seek to promote freedom wherever they can. They view your world as showing great promise because spirituality and religion have not been destroyed or forgotten here. They see that the power of Knowledge, the greater spiritual power, is still alive in individuals, despite humanity’s grave mistakes and foolish activities.

The Allies of Humanity have sent a series of Briefings into the world to advise and to prepare humanity for its engagement with the Greater Community. These Briefings present information that no one on Earth could create or know for themselves. They create a perspective that humanity does not presently have regarding the prospects for contact and the consequences of contact.

The Briefings correct many of humanity’s false assumptions and uninformed beliefs—assumptions and beliefs that make you vulnerable to foreign manipulation and persuasion.

This came from a large body of work-- I am not the author of this material