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Farsight - 'The Miracle of Fatima' - Comments
Ok Entrodude, i think you will be as surprised as i was. I will lay it out in pieces, as i do not want to sit for hours to type it all at once. Some questions inbetween are welcomed.
Lets have a look at the 1st and 2nd „secrets“ first.
These are not secrets per se, as they were published in 1917 without delay.
The first „secret“ was a vision of hell, which lasted only for a brief moment, as not to terrify the children too much, but long enough to get the message across: „Behave yourself, do good or else...“ Some might take offence in that, but obviously „Mary“ is not a Liberal. (I miss Emojis here).
The second „secret“ is more a prophecy. Part of it is :
„....When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the Consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace....“
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima )
There are disputes whether the prophecy of the „unknown light“ has been fulfilled in 1938, when an unusual strong Aurora Borealis was seen down unto Bavaria and Hitler saw it and took it as a sign with a statement of „Yes, now we will shed blood“.
Father Malachi Martin is of that opinion:
Personally, i do not agree with his opinion that the „unknown light“-event has already happened. I think this is still to come. But this, and the „3 days of darkness“ can be adressed later.
Malachi Martin is a very good source, as he has walked in the corridors of power within the Vatican, has read the 3rd secret and has left the Vatican, as he could not stand the direction into which it went. Art Bell, knowing this, squeezed him many times on Air regarding Fatima.
Malachi mentioned several times that the 3rd secret involves also Russia and Ukraine, which makes it more important as currently Russia is getting ready to invade Ukraine.
I'll just say that is is becoming clear that ET has had a hand in just about everything including religions. I'm trying to get some traction for another FS target.....The notion in the Islamic faith that Mohamed rode a horse into heaven. Did it happen...lets find out. Was it a real horse or something quite different? I'd bet this RV technique would give us some valid data.
You see where this fork in that rabbit hole is headed? The Mormon church speaks of golden tablets with engraving on them.....yet another fork.. Buddha....who was he? The list and possibilities is endless. Again, many are very opposed to anything that might change/alter their world views. Very unsettling it can be. But you know what? We are going to make it.
You are right. But we can turn the situation also into our advantage: By picking up the good stuff, given with benevolent intention by higher developed ET and rejecting the bad programming or enforcing by Orion/Lizzies. I don`t know about Mohamed and his riding into heaven, but the "Mary" related ET event clearly (at least for me) qualify for the good stuff.
How do i know that? Well, the Vatican actively wants to suppress this info given by ET, which is a clear qualifier for me.
So, i will first continue to establish the fact that the Vatican is in opposition to this "Mary" apparition. Then, from there i will move on.
So the 3rd secret was orally given to Lucia and the instruction was that it was to be published in 1960. Lucia memorized the secret and refused to write it down for decades.
In the 1940`s she got very sick and, on request of higher authorities in the church, was finally willing to write it down in order to preserve it in case she would die. It was written by her on a single piece of paper and consisted of approx. 25-27 lines. It was then sealed in an envelope.
This envelope went to the Vatican and was opened 1960 by the Pope John with an intend to read it before the publication. After reading it, he refused to publish it and re-sealed it. Since 1960 every new Pope read it and refused to publish it.
Here is something more about the 3rd secret, coming from Malachi Martin by Bell`s squeezes and probeings:
„A great plague will befall the whole world...“ :
Alone from Martin`s comments we can see that the 3rd secret is a BIG DEAL.
So what happened before 1960 with Sister Lucia? She eventually recovered from her illness and continiued living as a nun. She was obviously determined to make the public know the secret as ordered by „Mary“. If not by the Vatican, then by herself. See here:
After that interview Sister Lucia was slowly but surely completely separated from any public life even from her family and her confession-padre as well.
Then, on July 2, 1959 the Diocese of Coimbra released a disconcerting note along with the following words of correction, supposedly from Sister Lucia:
“I know nothing, and could therefore say nothing, about such punishments, which are falsely attributed to me.”
The note closes with these words: “Sister Lucy has nothing more to say on Fatima.”
So before 1960 Sister Lucia just vanished, due to the actions of the Church and any further discussion seemed to be mote.
Then 1960 went by and nothing happened. So the whole issue could have stopped there and could have moved into the forgetting veil of „History“.
But it didn`t.
Do we know who the author of this "secret" is? Sister Lucia and ??? I have no previous knowledge of this secret story.. Just curious.
You would not know about the secret, as it is more known to devote orthodox Catholics.
ET is the author of it. They gave the info to Lucia with the instruction to keep it a secret and to see to it that it will be published in 1960, for the world to know.
Lucia memorized the info, kept it to herself and refused to write it down, despite many attempts by the Church to persuade her .
In the 1940`s she got very, very sick and finally gave in, because the world would lose the info in case she would die. She wrote it down and sealed the envelope, which finally went to the Vatican for "safekeeping until 1960". She eventually recovered.
In 1957 the Church locked her up in a cloister until after 1960. The year 1960 and 1961 came and went and nothing happened: No Lucia and no publication.
Are we going to side track here if we wonder about predictions and profecies?
Sidetrack how?
Is this discussion going to Chatolic Theology? I mean pondering about "secrets" which were new to me and not mentioned in RV-sessions. Just my personal oppinion. Everybody's free to have their own. I don't want to hurt your feelings MB. My perspective is just defferent from yours.
I would say yes..if you truly want to know the truths.
Knowing the source of information gives us insight into its meaning. Good stuff.
....and ET was not happy....
In Fatima „Mary“ appeared 6 times over several months. The „Miracle of the Sun“ was designed to leave an impression which would give enough lasting importance for the publication of the message in 1960 to happen.
It did not work out and „Mary“/ET was not happy, so they upped the ante.
In July of 1961, outside the small village of Garabandal in Spain, „Mary“ appeared to 3 kids and her first words were :
“Because my children have not followed my instructions....“
Mary appeared from July 1961 until November 1965 approximately 2000 times to the children!
Thats quite an uptick compared to Fatima.
The kids went always into ecstasy during the apparitions, along with several small „miracles“.
The Church was extremely embarrassed by this development and swung into action:
An order was given not to publicise any info about the apparitions. All priests were forbidden to visit Garabandal on threat of excommunication. The small church in Garabandal was ordered closed during the ecstasies. The kids were even arrested by police and threatened with jailtime if they would not publically declare the apparitions as a hoax. It did not work.
Despite all efforts by the Church to keep things under wrap, slowly the news spread.
Priest would visit Garabandal in civil cloths, risking their future, only to participate in the apparitions. From them the word would slowly spread.
Due to the length and magnitude of the events in Garabandal during 1961-1965, the Church came under a great pressure from outside by the believers, as well as from inside.
So, they also upped the ante....
MB-did you watch the Farsight project on Fatima?
In 1967 „Sister Lucia“ re-appeared to the public, at least according to the Church, „proved“ with manipulated pictures where the fake Lucia2 was edited into. These pictures were released by the Church many years later. Surprisingly, the features of that woman had changed,
Have a look by yourself.
This is the original Sister Lucia in 1950 :
https://imgur.com/jpeAVPu
This is the fake Lucia (i will call her Lucia2) in 1980, 30 years later :
http://www.papalartifacts.com/portfolio-item/sr-lucia-of-fatima/
Is it only my opinion that she is clearly a different and much younger person? What do you think, Entodude?
So, many of the catholics who paid attention, cried out: Fraud! Imposter!
Here is a pdf made by autraged catholics:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TPEm_ssT69nB-RFQWzc3Ek2QMzH-8Jsy/view
Lets hear the experts as about the identity of Lucia2.
Face- analysis and -comparision :
https://sisterlucytruth.org/animetrics-report/
Handwriting :
https://sisterlucytruth.org/handwriting-analysis/
Oral surgeon analysis:
https://sisterlucytruth.org/oral-surgeon-report/
Any reasonable person will come to the conclusion that the Church wanted to impose a different and younger person than the original Lucia onto the narrative.
Why ?
Well, in the year 2000 the Church finally announced the long awaited publication of the 3rd secret of Fatima. It was presented to the world in a grand ceremony and you can read that 3rd secret here on the Vatican`s website:
Lucia2 was also present at the publicational ceremony and there publically declared the text as being genuine and the original text from 1917.
Here a video from that ceremony in Fatima:
So what was really happenening with the real 3rd secret?
It was known already that the text had to fit on one sheet of paper and had approximately 25-27 lines.
This was known from the priest who received the original sealed envelope from Lucia in the 1940´s:
He held the envelope against the light and from the semitransparency of the envelope could see that it contained one sheet of paper which was fully covered by writing.
But the „secret“ published by the Vatican is a very much longer text, which - by any means - does not fit onto one page.
So what has the Church presented to the World?
A FAKE LUCIA2, LYING ABOUT A FAKE „3rd SECRET“.
It is a well orchestrated fraud, involving a long term planing and considerable effort!
This has been the official position of the Church up to today.
Are you a devout catholic?