@CY KO

Some info on my personal take after researching the Roswell event and the Alien Interview book contents over some years, for what it may be worth.

It is very difficult to validate most of the material from the book. We simply don't have access to be able to do it. We don't have an intimate personal connection to the inner sanctum of the Domain or the Domain Expeditionary Force or Airl or other personnel there, if they exist. To try and validate anything from our position here on planet is almost impossible.

There are other ISBE's on planet who claim to have contact with the Domain and there are some that have suggested such in this forum. It could either be true, that they are one of the Domain personnel stuck here as suggested in the book/s, or this whole thing is one very well created PSYOP. If we are not one of the lost Domain personnel, then how will we ever know? The Domain does not provide any solutions to exit the Prison Planet in the original book, other than we will have to do it ourselves.

To clarify, the Editor of the book is deceased. Yes, he admitted to being involved in Scientology at some stage in his life and it is clearly stated why he burnt the original material in the book. He actually did quite a bit of research himself to validate the material which is in the footnotes. In my opinion the footnotes are very important, not to be skipped. The Editor has claimed he couldn't write such a book from his imagination.

There is mention of several aspects which align with the book, provided by L Ron Hubbard in his lecture 'The Role of Earth' which was given in 1952. The interview took place in 1947. This connection opens up questions which would require some answers which will most likely not be forthcoming, like many regarding the book. The book was released in 2008.

There is a 'sequel' book, The Domain Expeditionary Force Rescue Mission. There is a solution provided to exit the Prison Planet. The Editor describes this book being a contrivance of his imagination, which contradicts his previous statement about him not being able to write the original book from his imagination. Who knows? Only he knows the reality of the books and their creation.

Thank you for the details.

FS's next project is about this book. It will be interesting.

I hope they will also probe SPENCER... the editor and possible real author.

Many people were wondering if Farsight had links to Scientology. Now it is more clear: Farsight's toolbox (concepts, vocabulary, interpretations) comes from one book... published by a Scientologist in 2008.

Some things seem to have been proven wrong by FS. They showed that Lao Tse and Buddha did not escape the death traps. It was the imagination of the author... He thought Buddah and Lao Tse "got it right" so he gave them a pass!

The dates for the destruction of Atlantis are very wrong. The text says the Egyptian priests who told the story to Solon gave the date of 1,500 BC (which is the date for Santorini.) This is not correct for Atlantis: the date given by the Egyptians to Solon is 9,600 BC. Accroding to Plato's text, it is very clear; 9,000 years before Solon. (They had their base outside the Mediterrenean near Morrocco and they were exploiting resources in North and South America.) What the ET is telling us about Atlantis/Santorini is inspired by HUMAN accademic data from the XXth century.

So the author must be a SMART being from the XXth century... a neo-gnostic who is presenting the results of his research in this form of "reality-fiction."

Funny how the Roswell ET character is rigid and very faithful to what he calls the Domain. He is an officier and says only what he is allowed to say. He is a believer and almost a sort of AI. He often repeats that NOBODY IS ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE DOMAIN.

FS did a project on Roswell and verified the reality of the crash. It seems it was a real UFO with real ET's... not an accident... it was intended... it was set up by a group of ET's in order to "make contact" with humanity. (If I remember well the FS video.)

Let us see how FS will treat this new project. I am very curious.

The beauty of SRV is that everyone can check directly... making our own projects. No need to believe anyone or anything.

"They showed that Lao Tse and Buddha did not escape the death traps."

That's not true. Lao Tse escaped despite being pulled into the light and being zapped. Airl was wondering how he managed to do that. Escaping the death traps by avoiding the light seems to be easier.

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"What the ET is telling us about Atlantis/Santorini is inspired by HUMAN accademic data from the XXth century."

Yes. The book describes how Airl is learning the English language and human concepts by studying many books written by humans. She then uses that "knowledge" to translate what she knows. But she also mentions that the real Atlantis and Lemuria existed 70,000 years ago. I think the confusion stems from the fact that the term Atlantis was used in many different contexts.

"He is a believer and almost a sort of AI. He often repeats that NOBODY IS ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE DOMAIN."

Yeah, I got a lot of "resistance is futile" borg vibes from this. Airl being an AI is a possibility we should consider. The Domain seems to be a technocratic society with biological life as a lower class and technology as their "religion".

"not an accident... it was intended... it was set up by a group of ET's in order to "make contact" with humanity."

Just ask yourself: They are billions of years old and are technologically very advanced, but a simple lightning crashes their UFO by disconnecting the pilot's consciousness from the craft? Wouldn't that be an effective weapon to defeat them? It doesn't make any sense.

Today? It does not count... Did they ever mention it before today? I watched all their videos and I do not rememeber. If they did I would love to know where exactly.

I think Farsight should mention it at the beginning of every video and call it THE GOSPEL OF ROSWELL.

As a funny comparison, Courney loves pronouncing the name of the Israeli ex-military idiot Chaim Something who said UFO's were real. He pronounced his name 40 times. But I never heard him reveal his MAJOR source of inspiration : Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy.

I don't know how much exactly, but I would guess I saw it around 5 or 6 times. I suggested Airl as a target per E-Mail even before I came to this forum, because Courtney was talking about the book. If you search for it in the forums, you will find threads that are 3 years old.

The real mystery is why they waited so long to remote view Airl.

The Domain is a hierarchical authoritarian organisation. They think that the way the Federation is doing it (free will as prime directive) is chaotic, and that this chaos threatens the structure of the Domain, which seems to be built on some form of religious belief (smoke and mirrors).

"No one else can tell you what the truth really is as it's a Free Will universe."

It goes back to the fact that no matter how much someone else tries to point you in the right direction you won't believe anything until you learn it for yourself. As they say....use the KISS principle...Keep It Simple Stupid.

That's just not true. Most people believe in things they never learned for themselves. They believe in it because they want it to be true, which doesn't mean that it is true.

I think you're confusing the terms believing and knowing.

Some additions after finishing the book:

"Interestingly, the Domain seems to be built on an egalitarian mindset regarding the nature of ISBEs"

I take that back. Airl mentions the term egalitarian at one point, but when she describes the hierarchical class system, it is clear that the Domain is an authoritarian society. The main reason for this seems to be a shortage of high technology bodies for the upper class, combined with a disgust for biological bodies. The Domain very clearly endorses slavery and practices it, based on a weird and irrational understanding of what freedom is. I will go deeper into this after the Airl project has been released.

"The actual problem is the amnesia mechanism – they don't seem to have a clue how to get rid of the amnesia, and they are not putting resources into researching it."

I honestly don't get why they don't have the ressources to rescue their lost battalion. They know where they are, so it's definitely better to get them out physically, bring them out of the range of the death traps, let them depart from their bodies and give them the time to heal. But instead, they leave them here for thousands of years, letting them to be recycled for a hundred lifes or more. There's something cold and cruel about the Domain, and I definitely don't want to be a citizen of that organisation.

The first suspect is the editor... Laurence R. Spencer... The book came out in 2008... Spencer is a writer who wrote 10 books and given who he is and what he wrote he is the prime suspect. This is how he describe himself:

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/270241.Lawrence_R_Spencer

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I am the author of 10 books. My books explore facts and fantasies of universes, both physical and spiritual, including western history, art, mythology, personal spiritual immortality, logic and science fiction.

I've had a lifelong admiration of the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle to whom the book 'SHERLOCK HOLMES: MY LIFE' is a tribute.

As an self-educated oil painter, I made a ground breaking study of the life and paintings of my favorite artist, the Dutch master Johannes Vermeer, about which the book 'VERMEER: PORTRAITS OF A LIFETIME' is written.

I am also the Editor of the book ALIEN INTERVIEW, including transcripts, letters and personal notes provided by the late Army Air Force Nurse Matilda MacElroy concerning the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. The website is HTTP://ALIENINTERVIEW.ORG.

My most recent book is titled "Loud Zoo - The Tao Te Terra". It is available in print or as an audio book from Audible.com.

My Daily Internet Blog contains personal commentary, literature and poetry about "LIFE, UNIVERSES and Other Stuff" You can read and subscribe to my Blog at HTTP://LAWRENCERSPENCER.COM

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Believe nothing... Take your own UFO pictures and do your own RV projects :)

It is a very serious shift. It is the DIRECT knowledge of things. It is the end the endless conversations where one tries to convince someone else with arguments. It is the last and ultimate information. The revelation of the revelations.

The EYE symbol at the top of the pyramid is the same the hindu draw on the forehead of figures. It is the pineal gland. The cosmic antenna. The eye of knowledge. Placed at the top here because it is the ultimate level of knowledge.

At this level of understanding one stops learning through an INTERMEDIARY... parent, teacher, cop, priest... You just OPEN THE WINDOW of yourself... and look... if you want.

If you don't want, it is all good as well : you will live like a slave and you will be recycled.

Well...

They have viewed the Roswell UFO crash, but not why it happened in the first place, and not what happened afterwards.

They have viewed the Domain, but nothing about what the Domain is doing on and near Earth right now.

They have viewed the death traps, but interestingly, after watching the project, you just don't know anything concrete.

They haven't viewed the ISBE, but they are using the term as if it's true.

They haven't viewed Matilda or Lawrence Spencer.

They haven't viewed Airl until now.

The point is: They are collecting (or releasing) the data very slowly, and in a weird order.

This is a valid theory and could be true.

Here's another one: The Domain exists, the UFO "crashed", and the Interview between Matilda and Airl did take place. But it was not an accident at all – instead, it was a psy-op to implant propaganda about the Domain into human consciousness. They already did that with the Vedic Hymns and other religions. Airl is very blunt about the Domain being invested in religious psychological warfare.

The goals of the book could be:

1. Paint the Domain in a certain light. Interestingly, the Domain is presented as a very advanced civilization, dominating whole galaxies, and already owning Earth. Resistance is futile.

2. Push the transhumanist agenda as part of the Domains technocratic society and religion. Transhumanism is a big business today.

3. Prepare humanity to be integrated into the Domain as a working class. Which of course would be slavery, but with fancy technology.

I agree with Bill Ryan - the famous contactee from Project Camelot/Avalon. This book is a work of FICTION. This is not debatable among respactable people. It would be ridiculous. If you doubt or if you insist to open a debate you are only informing people about your COGNITIVE LIMITS. The proofs are in your face, hard as steel and there are soo many that I would not even know where to start... even the world AIRL is an anagram of LIAR.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW

On the other hand, it can be more than interesting to discuss the CONTENT of the book. One by one. To look for the source of inspiration of the author.

* For example the Vedic Hymns and the group who settled in the Himalayas. Farsight did a project about this. WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THIS STORY? Is it somewhere in Scientology? Did someone write about it in a book before 2008? Did H. Blatavski or R. Steiner write something about it?

* The word DOMAIN to designate a large Space Empire like the DARCO came from this book as well? Or did someone else introduced it before 2008?

* This is the account of one of the 4 beings inside the Roswell UFO. She pretends to have survived 1 month in captivity by the US gov before being re-incarnated on Earth as Sanni Ceto. She seems very traumatized by everthing that happened to her since the crash. She published 2 books already. I think her account is MUCH more credible than the hoax by Spencer.

THIS IS SINNI CETO ABOUT HER BOOK:

THIS IS L.R. SPENCER ABOUT HIS BOOK:

"This is not debatable among respactable people."

Everything is debatable among respactable people. That's why they are respectable.

"If you doubt or if you insist to open a debate you are only informing people about your COGNITIVE LIMITS."

See, I'm thinking in possibilities and probabilities. There is no probability of zero with the given information. Coming to a conclusion based on limited information and disallowing doubt and debate is called DOGMA. I'm not into that.

"On the other hand, it can be more than interesting to discuss the CONTENT of the book."

I'm already doing that. I don't discuss the book because I think it's true. I'm discussing it because I see the possibility that it could be true to some extent. For the same reason, I would be very interested in discussing Sanni Ceto and other stories, as well as remote viewing them.

* I am a bit aggressive here for a reason. In a nursery it is always fun to play. Everything works. We can invent million of hypothesis. Why not? But when you investigate you need to use a good paranoid hammer to break the empty idols. This story is not knew. It has been 16 years already.

* Your position is more DOGMATIC than mine. You have decided the book is TRUE (!) so much that you keep quoting "AIRL" as a true teacher who REVEALED precisous things from a superior (godlike) positon of knowledge. This book is clearly part of your FOUNDATIONS. You are building thoughts on this foundation. This means you are lost outside of reality. You are trapped inside a LIMBO or semi-religious soup where you can only drink what you will pee, forever. It is a cognitive trap. It is a mental condition.

* The debates happened. But it is over. The investigation is over. All the best people agree the book is a hoax written by Spencer. EVEN IF THE CONTENT IS TRUE. And this is what makes it interesting. Not to just dismiss the content as if it was NOTHING. But to investigate every point. Try to see where this or that information (whether true or not is not the question) came from. This is where one should spend his batteries: the GENEALOGY OF A HOAX.

* The best hypothesis is the most probable: Spencer is guy like you and he worked on a timeline. He read all the books. Maybe he was a member of esoteric groups. For sure he dove into Scientology and most probably up to the highest OT levels. But he is not allowed to tell the things he knows. The book is a very efficient way to "tell it all" in a way that can be understood by anyone. No strange vocabulary that could repel the tourist.

"You have decided the book is TRUE"

And you have decided to tell me what I know and what I think. I'm under the impression that my thoughts are somehow a threat to your foundations, which is why you get agressive. Maybe you don't understand how to think in possibilities and not believing the thoughts you have. My foundation is logic and curiosity. If the book is not true, a learn from that and move on. I'm not invested in any of it. Actually, I would like it to not be true, because the Domain seems to be bad people.

"All the best people agree the book is a hoax written by Spencer. EVEN IF THE CONTENT IS TRUE."

I just don't understand your problem. If the content is true, regardless of who has written it, why are you attacking me for thinking about the content?

Hehe :)

As I said in my long message above... Spencer built the perfect set up... He says everything at the same time... You can never catch him... It is a literary trick...

For example: if you tell him with: "it is not true"... he says OK no problem... if you tell him: "it is true"... he says maybe not... If you tell him "prove it"... he says I have nothing to do with it... it came in the mail from the sky... I am innocent of everything...

"I just found the book"... is a long LITERARY tradition from writers when they publish something a little crazy... to create protection when they have no protection.

He says : I has no vested interest in UFO research... but YES I have written about aliens, because I am interested in the subject... LOL LOL LOL... This is where the audience needs to laugh.

Then he says he have not sold enought of his previous SF books. The work was not worth the $... It could not sustain his lifestyle... Well guess what? This is called a MOTIF in criminology... His alien book was a game changer. He could finally live from his books.

Your last sentence assumes SHE CALLED HIM. Nothing of what he says can be trusted. NOTHING. You are using his words as truth. YOU PUT HIM ON A PODIUM WITH A MIC. You cannot do that. HE IS YOUR SUSPECT. You must tie him up on a little chair with a strong light in his face. Then a bucket of frozen water. Then a couple of slaps just for the blood to circulate... ONLY THEN we can relax and start Mr. Spencer's interrogation.

"Your last sentence assumes SHE CALLED HIM."

No. My last sentence is a question based on the premise that she called him. I don't assume the premise to be true. Instead, I use the premise – true or not – to demonstrate that the conclusion resulting from that premise being true is not very believable. In doing that, I make the case that he might be lying, instead of just postulating it.

OK... You are asking yourself questions on the premise the book is real. And through these good questions you are finding out the book cannot be real.

So we agree it is a hoax :)

It works also this way but you are walking upside down. Because you have ZERO reason to assume the book is real in the first place. Since you cannot just "believe" the words of Spencer!

It is more methodical, healthy and logical to start by stating temporarly the book is NOT real... and then try to build a case that it is real if you can.

"And through these good questions you are finding out the book cannot be real."

No. As the answer is not very believable, I see the possibility that I don't have enough information to come to a conclusion. It could be a hoax, but it also could be that Spencer got the documents from another person and invented Matilda to give the book a relatable protagonist.

"...and then try to build a case that it is real if you can."

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You can imagine anything you want but it has to work. It has to have a decent level of probabilty to be interesting.

Of course Mr. Spencer COULD have done millions of things. He COULD tell you he is a shapeshifting giraffe. So what? You are telling me YES it is MAYBE true. It cannot be dismissed until proven otherwise because he said it.

This is so wrong.

We are all interested in the same investigation.

I think Scientology and all the gnostic traditions that preceeds it have a lot of good points.

Spencer for sure did a lot of research, like many of us.

But he chose this "deceptive" way to publish his results.

If people are believing the hoax part, then maybe he did a good job. It works well because many elements are true. The UFO, the ET, the nurse... and even a lot of his "history" contains elements of truth.

A book about this book - a geneaology of it - could be even more interesting than his book.

"It works well because many elements are true. The UFO, the ET, the nurse"

So you think the only element that is not true is the communication between the ET and the nurse?

I think the 1947 Roswell event is true or partly true... and Spencer and his 2008 book have absolutely nothing to do with it.

You managed to write a sentence... but what EVENT are you referring to?

@Entodude

I think it's not the intensity of the attempts, but the way how it's done. A certain view is postulated as truth, backed up by the claim that "many people agree", and then the debate and investigation is declared to be over. It is even claimed that the approach of free thinking is not "healthy".

Reasonable people don't do it that way.

@Manuel

It is not reasonable because it is kindergarden level. It can be shot with only ONE bullet.

FS has proven all ET's are telepathic and they chat with them directly. But Spencer's book says "Airl" had to STUDY English to learn to speak it. It took him a week. LOL or not LOL?

This is just one. Even if you manage to "explain it out", there is a long list of similar glitches. The ACCUMULATION of these glitches allows us to "close the topic."

"FS has proven all ET's are telepathic and they chat with them directly. But Spencer's book says "Airl" had to STUDY English to learn to speak it. It took him a week."

The book states that Airl communicated telepathically with Matilda right from the beginning, but Matilda was not good at interpreting the thoughts she received. Airl then learned English in order to be able to convey the thoughts in the form of language.

"there is a long list of similar glitches. The ACCUMULATION of these glitches allows us to "close the topic."

But you haven't accumulated the glitches. You just claim that there's a long list and want to close the topic without looking at it. That's not reasonable. If you want to close the topic, please provide the list of glitches first.

@Cy Ko

With respect, there are for's and against's in everything on this planet. Closing a topic because of a lack of understanding and research because a few topics mentioned might not fit our own personal world view of how things are or should be is closing a potential door to further understanding of the universe around us. Closing a topic because someone cried hoax without providing any evidence to back it up and leading their captive audience with this mindset is troubling. I can't say if the contents of the book are true or not, I personally lean towards more truth than not, but there's very little by way of solid evidence and it doesn't seem that there's been much of concerted effort put in by anyone at this stage to try and find it either. EG, Matilda and her husband were interned in a cemetery in County Meath Ireland, has anyone who lives reasonably close tried to confirm that evidence? The home they supposedly lived in there, exists.

Airl identifies as a female by the way. She wasn't with the original crew at the Himalayan base, but bought in to investigate after the fact. So 'she' wasn't captured like the other 3K personnel.

Yes, Airl indicates she knew 347 other languages and had never been exposed to Earth's English. How would you expect telepathic connection without having a base construct of understanding so both parties can communicate? Can someone use telepathic communication in Spanish and the other party who doesn't know Spanish understand the messages as the sender intended? I don't know.

As @Manuel requests I would also like to see the long list of glitches. It could provide for some interesting discussion here and perhaps allow us to clarify things we don't understand.